“Making the Arsenal” – the book of Arsenal’s decline and rebirth
By Tony Attwood
This series of articles focusses on the team that started the first post war season for Arsenal in 1919. Inevitably however some of these players have already been the subject of articles on this site – including both the number 6 and number 7 for the opening game in 1919 against Newcastle:
Which takes us on to Frederick William Groves who turned out at number 8 in our first post war game. He played inside and outside right plus centre forward on occasion.
Fred Groves was born on 13 January 1891 – but the date of his death is not known.
He was born in Shadwell and played for Barnet Albion (a club of which I have no detail at all) and Glossop North End before signing as an amateur player in August 1912, turning pro 14 months later.
His first game was against Derby County on December 7, 1912, in the dreadful relegation season. In his first three seasons he played three, three and two games for the first team, but scored no goals.
Having made 133 wartime appearances for Arsenal, he played 29 times in the first post-war season scoring five goals, and 13 times with one goal in the following season.
He left the club in August 1921 having played 53 games scoring six in the league and one in the cup – plus of course all those wartime games.
Fred then moved on to Brighton and Hove Albion for whom he played for three years and then Charlton in 1924/5, followed by Dartford, after which he vanishes from the radar.
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